The APPG on Clinical Leadership and Management today met with the Chief Executive of University Hospitals Birmingham, Dame Julie Moore, who provided a fantastic insight into NHS recruitment. The goal of the Group is to explore how healthcare leaders can encourage frontline staff to seek management roles,. Dame Julie supplied the Group with a very useful picture of the NHS leadership model and helped them better understand the daily expectations of a vital NHS manager. There is much more to be done to encourage clinicians to assume leadership roles and the Group intends to be at the forefront of this development.